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	<title>Comments on: Ask Your Bartender: Bartending Schools</title>
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	<description>Jeffrey Morgenthaler writes about bartending and mixology from Portland, Oregon</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Konger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Konger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your plan! Very sneaky and what&#039;s great is that it actually works. I got my job as a bartender after working as a waiter in a restaurant with a bar. On slow nights there wasn&#039;t a bartender on duty so they had the waiters and waitresses mix the drinks for the customers so that&#039;s  how I learned and eventually, they put my in as bartender one night when the current bartender had to call in sick. I love this job and I learn new things every night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your plan! Very sneaky and what&#8217;s great is that it actually works. I got my job as a bartender after working as a waiter in a restaurant with a bar. On slow nights there wasn&#8217;t a bartender on duty so they had the waiters and waitresses mix the drinks for the customers so that&#8217;s  how I learned and eventually, they put my in as bartender one night when the current bartender had to call in sick. I love this job and I learn new things every night.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But in all seriousness, I did enjoy what you wrote. You, out of all the websites I&#039;ve searched, have been the one that pulled me in the most.

I hope that writing is bringing you good fortune,

Happy New Year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But in all seriousness, I did enjoy what you wrote. You, out of all the websites I&#8217;ve searched, have been the one that pulled me in the most.</p>
<p>I hope that writing is bringing you good fortune,</p>
<p>Happy New Year</p>
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		<title>By: Rhett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well thank god I&#039;m used to that, Prison ain&#039;t what it used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well thank god I&#8217;m used to that, Prison ain&#8217;t what it used to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Morgenthaler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhett - Sorry that this isn&#039;t the magic bullet you&#039;re looking for, but it&#039;s the only advice I have. If you&#039;re unemployed and broke, then yeah, this method probably isn&#039;t going to work.  In that case, I don&#039;t have a solution for you. You&#039;re fucked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhett &#8211; Sorry that this isn&#8217;t the magic bullet you&#8217;re looking for, but it&#8217;s the only advice I have. If you&#8217;re unemployed and broke, then yeah, this method probably isn&#8217;t going to work.  In that case, I don&#8217;t have a solution for you. You&#8217;re fucked.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And apologies for my horrendous typos and bad grammar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And apologies for my horrendous typos and bad grammar!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog. 

I&#039;m in the UK, female, getting close to 35 but forging a career path within beverage service. I am doing a 2 year Wine Business course which incorporates the Wines Spirits and Education Trust WSET Diploma (Level 4) I&#039;ve got distinctions already in Levels 2 and 3. 

I&#039;ve worked in pubs (called brewhouses in the US?)for many years on and off and currently in a big country pub for over a year but this does not provide any cocktail worl. I want to get into professional bartending and a Global Bartending Certificate is offered by a local Mixology School run by one of the country&#039;s top mixologists. We dont have the plethora of scheister courses in the UK but they are all twice the price. 

Even so, is undertaking such a course a good thing with intentions as I have to get into cruise ship work and 5*hotel bars? I am meeting with the school to discuss plan but it would be interesting to hear from you. I was told being female, with an English accent and massive passion for beverage service and despite my not as young as some age can and will go far in this world.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the UK, female, getting close to 35 but forging a career path within beverage service. I am doing a 2 year Wine Business course which incorporates the Wines Spirits and Education Trust WSET Diploma (Level 4) I&#8217;ve got distinctions already in Levels 2 and 3. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked in pubs (called brewhouses in the US?)for many years on and off and currently in a big country pub for over a year but this does not provide any cocktail worl. I want to get into professional bartending and a Global Bartending Certificate is offered by a local Mixology School run by one of the country&#8217;s top mixologists. We dont have the plethora of scheister courses in the UK but they are all twice the price. </p>
<p>Even so, is undertaking such a course a good thing with intentions as I have to get into cruise ship work and 5*hotel bars? I am meeting with the school to discuss plan but it would be interesting to hear from you. I was told being female, with an English accent and massive passion for beverage service and despite my not as young as some age can and will go far in this world.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 04:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic answer, but if you plan to do this all around town you probably don&#039;t need to be a bartender because, guess what- YOU&#039;RE RICH... If you can &quot;do this all around town&quot; then you must just want a hobby...

I&#039;m unemployed and looking for a bar back job, and I can&#039;t go in to 1-3 bars a week and order whiskey (i don&#039;t do beer) and make small talk...

The small talk I can do, no problem, but I&#039;m monna need a job to try to find a job.

Depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic answer, but if you plan to do this all around town you probably don&#8217;t need to be a bartender because, guess what- YOU&#8217;RE RICH&#8230; If you can &#8220;do this all around town&#8221; then you must just want a hobby&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m unemployed and looking for a bar back job, and I can&#8217;t go in to 1-3 bars a week and order whiskey (i don&#8217;t do beer) and make small talk&#8230;</p>
<p>The small talk I can do, no problem, but I&#8217;m monna need a job to try to find a job.</p>
<p>Depressing.</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i graduated bartending school just over a yr ago, so i&#039;m just a baby, but i&#039;m workin!

so, here&#039;s another way to get experience after bartending school, i.e. catering/events business. 

in the process of a career change, from horrifically boring and suicide inducing work in a cubicle, (i am NOT a cubicle/office person by any stretch), i was already a massage therapist on the side, but wanted to add bartending to my bag of tricks...so having no luck getting even a barback position, i bit the bullet and went to bartending school, cause i knew i&#039;d kick some serious butt at it, (and i do ;)

i was lucky enough to make a good connection with one of the instructors, who, upon discussion of job placement, (which they offer aid in the form of job listing), i found out the school also hires out bartenders for private events, and was grateful when she offered me a place on the list of event bartenders...that was about a year ago, and since then i have grown and become more and more comfortable with my bartending skills, and am applying to other catering/event businesses to gain more experience and confidence...hopefully within the next year i will have enough experience to be attractive to a prospective employer...cuz i would love me a good/popular dive bar :) 

also, i wanted to thank you SO much for the resume tips and the above tips, i will put those in my bag of tricks for the future.

keep up the awesome blogging!
*raises a glass*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i graduated bartending school just over a yr ago, so i&#8217;m just a baby, but i&#8217;m workin!</p>
<p>so, here&#8217;s another way to get experience after bartending school, i.e. catering/events business. </p>
<p>in the process of a career change, from horrifically boring and suicide inducing work in a cubicle, (i am NOT a cubicle/office person by any stretch), i was already a massage therapist on the side, but wanted to add bartending to my bag of tricks&#8230;so having no luck getting even a barback position, i bit the bullet and went to bartending school, cause i knew i&#8217;d kick some serious butt at it, (and i do ;)</p>
<p>i was lucky enough to make a good connection with one of the instructors, who, upon discussion of job placement, (which they offer aid in the form of job listing), i found out the school also hires out bartenders for private events, and was grateful when she offered me a place on the list of event bartenders&#8230;that was about a year ago, and since then i have grown and become more and more comfortable with my bartending skills, and am applying to other catering/event businesses to gain more experience and confidence&#8230;hopefully within the next year i will have enough experience to be attractive to a prospective employer&#8230;cuz i would love me a good/popular dive bar :) </p>
<p>also, i wanted to thank you SO much for the resume tips and the above tips, i will put those in my bag of tricks for the future.</p>
<p>keep up the awesome blogging!<br />
*raises a glass*</p>
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		<title>By: Jack K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you still check this blog Jeff.

Here is my dilemma. I am 18 almost 19. I&#039;ve shuffled around from fast food, to hard labor, to commissioned sales jobs. Trying to hold something down until I decide I am ready to enlist in the Army.

There other day I quit the sales job as I decided that is not for me. My plan is to enlist when I am 20 (the Job i want in there require 20 yrs old+) 

After quiting, I sat around ALL DAY, thinking of what in the hell do I do now? I narrowed down Bartending sounds like the only thing fun and strikes an interest to me. I have NO IDEA how long I will still in the Army. My original plan was a career. But I am not at that stage of life where I don&#039;t know what I want to do until I retire. I could see my self spending the rest of my life in war, or a bar. Haha. 
I have other passions but nothing I would want to do day after day.

I came across the Minnesota School Of Bartending. It has an A+ BBB rating. (Not accredited though). They same legitmate to me even after all the NEGATIVE stuff I have heard about Bartending schooling.

My problem is I don&#039;t have 5 years to spend as a busboy or waiter or barback. (not to mention i&#039;ve heard worse than good about barbacks actually getting in as a bartender).  
I only have 1 year to support my bills and to have fun with my friends and girl until I leave.

But I have highly considered this as something to come back to if I get wounded or decide not make a career out of it. This school offers lifetime free refresher courses.  Should I take this route? or just not even bother with bartending for the time being.  

Please don&#039;t beat around the bush with your reply. I&#039;d rather you be blunt and honest. you won&#039;t hurt my feelings. Haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you still check this blog Jeff.</p>
<p>Here is my dilemma. I am 18 almost 19. I&#8217;ve shuffled around from fast food, to hard labor, to commissioned sales jobs. Trying to hold something down until I decide I am ready to enlist in the Army.</p>
<p>There other day I quit the sales job as I decided that is not for me. My plan is to enlist when I am 20 (the Job i want in there require 20 yrs old+) </p>
<p>After quiting, I sat around ALL DAY, thinking of what in the hell do I do now? I narrowed down Bartending sounds like the only thing fun and strikes an interest to me. I have NO IDEA how long I will still in the Army. My original plan was a career. But I am not at that stage of life where I don&#8217;t know what I want to do until I retire. I could see my self spending the rest of my life in war, or a bar. Haha.<br />
I have other passions but nothing I would want to do day after day.</p>
<p>I came across the Minnesota School Of Bartending. It has an A+ BBB rating. (Not accredited though). They same legitmate to me even after all the NEGATIVE stuff I have heard about Bartending schooling.</p>
<p>My problem is I don&#8217;t have 5 years to spend as a busboy or waiter or barback. (not to mention i&#8217;ve heard worse than good about barbacks actually getting in as a bartender).<br />
I only have 1 year to support my bills and to have fun with my friends and girl until I leave.</p>
<p>But I have highly considered this as something to come back to if I get wounded or decide not make a career out of it. This school offers lifetime free refresher courses.  Should I take this route? or just not even bother with bartending for the time being.  </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t beat around the bush with your reply. I&#8217;d rather you be blunt and honest. you won&#8217;t hurt my feelings. Haha.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 01:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looked into bartending school myself, as the plant I work in will be shutting its doors soon. Found some good reviews of schools and some not so good so I think it depends a lot on where you go. Something I noticed when I googled &quot;bartending jobs las Vegas&quot; many places hiring wanted &quot;one year experience or certification from bartending school.&quot; hope that helps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looked into bartending school myself, as the plant I work in will be shutting its doors soon. Found some good reviews of schools and some not so good so I think it depends a lot on where you go. Something I noticed when I googled &#8220;bartending jobs las Vegas&#8221; many places hiring wanted &#8220;one year experience or certification from bartending school.&#8221; hope that helps</p>
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		<title>By: Eemia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eemia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your BRILLIANT
Your bartender blog is ALWAYS 100%

I&#039;m impressed. 
Although not sure if I&#039;m impressed with you and how well rounded and spot on your views and/or experiences are or if impressed with myself for sharing those almost identical brilliant views and/or experiences.
HA
Please continue to blog - I have enjoyed your writing for years now and look forward to more.

Thanx,
Eemia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your BRILLIANT<br />
Your bartender blog is ALWAYS 100%</p>
<p>I&#8217;m impressed.<br />
Although not sure if I&#8217;m impressed with you and how well rounded and spot on your views and/or experiences are or if impressed with myself for sharing those almost identical brilliant views and/or experiences.<br />
HA<br />
Please continue to blog &#8211; I have enjoyed your writing for years now and look forward to more.</p>
<p>Thanx,<br />
Eemia</p>
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		<title>By: Ludmila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ludmila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 01:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody knows a place  in sf or east bay I could go to check? Im looking to be a bartender .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody knows a place  in sf or east bay I could go to check? Im looking to be a bartender .</p>
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		<title>By: Shredlife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shredlife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 06:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see this thread has gone 5 years without any negativity and strictly advice.  Also love the fact that managers and owners are checking in to see what the pros are teaching.  Theres love and succes as well as passion in this industry people.  Im following</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see this thread has gone 5 years without any negativity and strictly advice.  Also love the fact that managers and owners are checking in to see what the pros are teaching.  Theres love and succes as well as passion in this industry people.  Im following</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy, you wouldn&#039;t need to do much. Just flirt and show a little cleavage. 

-Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy, you wouldn&#8217;t need to do much. Just flirt and show a little cleavage. </p>
<p>-Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 17:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved this article! Any tips on how it would work differently for a woman? 

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this article! Any tips on how it would work differently for a woman? </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a manager at a high volume, popular, and high end establishment, we would never hire someone based on bartending school alone. We would hire from within our own ranks first.  We at least know what our own people are capable of handling. 
   Simply, getting experience as a barback, server, cocktailer, etc carries more weight than bartending school. School may teach you what you NEED to know, but employers need to know you CAN do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a manager at a high volume, popular, and high end establishment, we would never hire someone based on bartending school alone. We would hire from within our own ranks first.  We at least know what our own people are capable of handling.<br />
   Simply, getting experience as a barback, server, cocktailer, etc carries more weight than bartending school. School may teach you what you NEED to know, but employers need to know you CAN do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff, I am 63 years young, single, and lead a pretty active lifestyle. I&#039;m strong and fit and just finished a few days of barbacking (10 hr shifts) at a convention here in Vegas. I loved it.  I&#039;m trying hard to get into bartending and I&#039;d be interested to hear your opinion about a mature man like me starting a career in bartending.  My goal is be a top bartender at a golf club or fine dining establishment, but having trouble getting work and thinking about going to a bartending school while I keep searching for a bar job just to get experience mixing drinks. I was a top salesman for years and love to sell...now all I want to do is bartend and sell myself and have some fun doing it.  I would be great! Honestly, do you think an older (chronologically only) guy like me have a chance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff, I am 63 years young, single, and lead a pretty active lifestyle. I&#8217;m strong and fit and just finished a few days of barbacking (10 hr shifts) at a convention here in Vegas. I loved it.  I&#8217;m trying hard to get into bartending and I&#8217;d be interested to hear your opinion about a mature man like me starting a career in bartending.  My goal is be a top bartender at a golf club or fine dining establishment, but having trouble getting work and thinking about going to a bartending school while I keep searching for a bar job just to get experience mixing drinks. I was a top salesman for years and love to sell&#8230;now all I want to do is bartend and sell myself and have some fun doing it.  I would be great! Honestly, do you think an older (chronologically only) guy like me have a chance?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually attended bartending school when I turned 21.  I had 5 years of previous restaurant experience in every position, including some beer only bartending and also catering experience.  I already knew a decent amount, but at the time it seemed like a good idea to go through a &quot;school&quot;.  They were a pretty well connected school and I did land my first job through them.  Now the job was crap, I was working as a server and was &quot;training&quot; on bar for weeks and weeks and ended up quitting before I got my own shift...However my brother-in law was good friends with the owner of a new local high volume club.  He got me an interview, after 5 minutes of talking I started work the next day, which happened to be their busiest night.  Made $300 my first night.  The next night I was working by myself and its all history from there.  Guess I got kind of lucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually attended bartending school when I turned 21.  I had 5 years of previous restaurant experience in every position, including some beer only bartending and also catering experience.  I already knew a decent amount, but at the time it seemed like a good idea to go through a &#8220;school&#8221;.  They were a pretty well connected school and I did land my first job through them.  Now the job was crap, I was working as a server and was &#8220;training&#8221; on bar for weeks and weeks and ended up quitting before I got my own shift&#8230;However my brother-in law was good friends with the owner of a new local high volume club.  He got me an interview, after 5 minutes of talking I started work the next day, which happened to be their busiest night.  Made $300 my first night.  The next night I was working by myself and its all history from there.  Guess I got kind of lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only 20 and want to become a bartender part time to work my way through school. In kentucky im old enough to get the job, i think, but how do i go about getting it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m only 20 and want to become a bartender part time to work my way through school. In kentucky im old enough to get the job, i think, but how do i go about getting it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Morgenthaler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tristan - International experience is very credible on your resume. Definitely include it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tristan &#8211; International experience is very credible on your resume. Definitely include it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hej Jeff, question for you... 

I am a 23 year old student in california and I would really like to land a barbacking or bartending gig... my question is in regards to my limited experience which was as a bartender in Sweden last year for nearly 10 months and roughly 4 nights/week... it was at the busiest student pub in the 4th largest city in Sweden... is international experience credible experience? i did have to speak Swedish (which i am fluent in but does me little good in california) the majority of the time.

what do u suppose my chances are with that sort of experience? in fact, is it even more interesting than if it were in the states? im not entirely confident in the matter...

thanks!

tristan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hej Jeff, question for you&#8230; </p>
<p>I am a 23 year old student in california and I would really like to land a barbacking or bartending gig&#8230; my question is in regards to my limited experience which was as a bartender in Sweden last year for nearly 10 months and roughly 4 nights/week&#8230; it was at the busiest student pub in the 4th largest city in Sweden&#8230; is international experience credible experience? i did have to speak Swedish (which i am fluent in but does me little good in california) the majority of the time.</p>
<p>what do u suppose my chances are with that sort of experience? in fact, is it even more interesting than if it were in the states? im not entirely confident in the matter&#8230;</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>tristan</p>
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		<title>By: katsaisemszew</title>
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		<dc:creator>katsaisemszew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all! 
 
As a fresh www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com user i only wanted to say hi to everyone else who uses this forum 8-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all! </p>
<p>As a fresh <a href="http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com</a> user i only wanted to say hi to everyone else who uses this forum 8-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Morgenthaler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vin - I worked in architecture offices for many years while coming up tending bar.  It can be done if you find the right place - many establishments are sensitive to the fact that their employees maintain seconds jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vin &#8211; I worked in architecture offices for many years while coming up tending bar.  It can be done if you find the right place &#8211; many establishments are sensitive to the fact that their employees maintain seconds jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Vin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeff, here&#039;s a question I have for you.  Right now I&#039;m workin&#039; 40 hours a week just to pay off my crazy school loans from college.  I&#039;m barely able to keep my head above water, and I&#039;m already living at home.  While I was at school, I was sort of the resident bartender for my fraternity (at functions where we had a fully stocked bar) and took pride in passing on the torch to the next &quot;bartender.&quot;  I feel like I can make a decent drink, but I know there are a lot more out there for me.

As far as slowly working my way into the industry, I&#039;m not 100% sure that&#039;s something I&#039;d be capable of doing.  Say I followed your general guide and worked late nights while keeping my 40 hours with my current employer.  The big day comes and my new boss says, &quot;hey, blablabla called off, we need you to fill in for her tomorrow afternoon.&quot;

Obviously the new boss would probably already know I work full time elsewhere and probably wouldn&#039;t offer such a shift to me to begin with, but I guess my point is, even if it was offered, what could I do?  Call off sick from my main job to get a random Tuesday lunch shift?

This is where I was looking to bartending school.  What I want is a good contact list, a little training, and an ice breaker in an interview.  I don&#039;t wanna work Friday nights to start, but eventually, sure.  Something like a rung in my ladder when I talk to a manager and see if they know of anyone who has an open night of the week I could start would be what I&#039;m looking for.

I guess what my view of this &quot;debate&quot; is...Is that bartending school is not for everyone, but surely it&#039;s for someone.  Reading the posted opinions here, do you think it&#039;s something that may be for me?  If not...what&#039;s a guy to do to supplement his life with a decent part time gig as a bartender?  Or am I maybe barking up the wrong tree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff, here&#8217;s a question I have for you.  Right now I&#8217;m workin&#8217; 40 hours a week just to pay off my crazy school loans from college.  I&#8217;m barely able to keep my head above water, and I&#8217;m already living at home.  While I was at school, I was sort of the resident bartender for my fraternity (at functions where we had a fully stocked bar) and took pride in passing on the torch to the next &#8220;bartender.&#8221;  I feel like I can make a decent drink, but I know there are a lot more out there for me.</p>
<p>As far as slowly working my way into the industry, I&#8217;m not 100% sure that&#8217;s something I&#8217;d be capable of doing.  Say I followed your general guide and worked late nights while keeping my 40 hours with my current employer.  The big day comes and my new boss says, &#8220;hey, blablabla called off, we need you to fill in for her tomorrow afternoon.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously the new boss would probably already know I work full time elsewhere and probably wouldn&#8217;t offer such a shift to me to begin with, but I guess my point is, even if it was offered, what could I do?  Call off sick from my main job to get a random Tuesday lunch shift?</p>
<p>This is where I was looking to bartending school.  What I want is a good contact list, a little training, and an ice breaker in an interview.  I don&#8217;t wanna work Friday nights to start, but eventually, sure.  Something like a rung in my ladder when I talk to a manager and see if they know of anyone who has an open night of the week I could start would be what I&#8217;m looking for.</p>
<p>I guess what my view of this &#8220;debate&#8221; is&#8230;Is that bartending school is not for everyone, but surely it&#8217;s for someone.  Reading the posted opinions here, do you think it&#8217;s something that may be for me?  If not&#8230;what&#8217;s a guy to do to supplement his life with a decent part time gig as a bartender?  Or am I maybe barking up the wrong tree?</p>
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		<title>By: deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a bartender since I turned 21...17 years...I tried bar managing (yuck) and the worst bartender I ever had was the one guy who went to bartending school. Being a good bartender is largely about being able to read people, being a good (tough, responsible, honest) employee, and not turning yourself into a raging alcoholic in the process.  (minor, ranting alcoholics make good bartenders) The problem with bartending school is they try to teach you how to do things the &quot;right&quot; way and bartending is highly personalized. I work at a family-owned business, Friday days, sat, sun, mon,  thurs nights. We have lots of regular patrons and they like all four of us tenders but for different reasons..again, no one way of doing things.  My favorite new employee we ever had said &quot;I know how to do XXX, but I don&#039;t know how you guys do it.&quot; She lasted a long time and everyone enjoyed her...humility isn&#039;t something bartending schools teach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a bartender since I turned 21&#8230;17 years&#8230;I tried bar managing (yuck) and the worst bartender I ever had was the one guy who went to bartending school. Being a good bartender is largely about being able to read people, being a good (tough, responsible, honest) employee, and not turning yourself into a raging alcoholic in the process.  (minor, ranting alcoholics make good bartenders) The problem with bartending school is they try to teach you how to do things the &#8220;right&#8221; way and bartending is highly personalized. I work at a family-owned business, Friday days, sat, sun, mon,  thurs nights. We have lots of regular patrons and they like all four of us tenders but for different reasons..again, no one way of doing things.  My favorite new employee we ever had said &#8220;I know how to do XXX, but I don&#8217;t know how you guys do it.&#8221; She lasted a long time and everyone enjoyed her&#8230;humility isn&#8217;t something bartending schools teach.</p>
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