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	<title>Comments on: Ask Your Bartender: Drinking While Pregnant, It&#8217;s Cool, Right?</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this discussion is long over, but I just wanted to point out some new research on drinking during pregnancy.
 
 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101006085242.htm
The study just epidemiological, so you can&#039;t definitely draw cause/effect conclusions (it would be totally unethical to do a RCT on drinking and pregnancy, so this is probably the best we can do), but it does show that children of &quot;light drinking&quot; moms actually had less behavioral and intellectual development problems than moms who didn&#039;t drink at all during pregnancy.

This is me (not the authors of the study) speculating now, but I think there&#039;s a pretty good evolutionary reason for small amounts of alcohol not to be a problem.  Humans all over the world have been making alcohol for at least 10,000 years (about as long as we&#039;ve had things like farming and domestic animals), so it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if we&#039;ve evolved to tolerate or maybe even utilize certain amounts of alcohol during gestation.  Now, I don&#039;t know that this is true; I&#039;m just saying it&#039;s plausible.

Obviously, no one study ever proves anything in science or medicine.  But it just goes to show that biological systems are messy and usually more complicated than they seem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this discussion is long over, but I just wanted to point out some new research on drinking during pregnancy.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101006085242.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101006085242.htm</a><br />
The study just epidemiological, so you can&#8217;t definitely draw cause/effect conclusions (it would be totally unethical to do a RCT on drinking and pregnancy, so this is probably the best we can do), but it does show that children of &#8220;light drinking&#8221; moms actually had less behavioral and intellectual development problems than moms who didn&#8217;t drink at all during pregnancy.</p>
<p>This is me (not the authors of the study) speculating now, but I think there&#8217;s a pretty good evolutionary reason for small amounts of alcohol not to be a problem.  Humans all over the world have been making alcohol for at least 10,000 years (about as long as we&#8217;ve had things like farming and domestic animals), so it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if we&#8217;ve evolved to tolerate or maybe even utilize certain amounts of alcohol during gestation.  Now, I don&#8217;t know that this is true; I&#8217;m just saying it&#8217;s plausible.</p>
<p>Obviously, no one study ever proves anything in science or medicine.  But it just goes to show that biological systems are messy and usually more complicated than they seem.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 3 months pregnant. I have not drank while pregnant and do not find that a hard thing to do since I am the type (pre-pregnancy)to drink a large daiquiri once a month and that&#039;s it. I also have quit smoking and quit taking medication for a torn disc in my lower back from a car accident I was in 10 months ago. I have quit honey, tuna, blue cheese, and deli meats. I am still drinking a glass of hot tea every morning because otherwise I get migraines daily. My doctor has advised me on the following: don&#039;t drink, but one glass of wine once a month will not hurt that baby, don&#039;t smoke--but if you are going to smoke then smoke two cigarettes a day and not 20, don&#039;t drink caffeine--although the studies used to suggest caffeine causes miscarriages were done on mice not humans and those mice were given the equivalent of 70 cups of coffee in one day, etc... My point is I am being conservative in this pregnancy because it gives me peace of mind, but this mass hysteria we put pregnant woman through is ridiculous. I wonder if men had to carry the children would everyone&#039;s attitude be so militant? And I love how a male bartender is an expert on pregnancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 3 months pregnant. I have not drank while pregnant and do not find that a hard thing to do since I am the type (pre-pregnancy)to drink a large daiquiri once a month and that&#8217;s it. I also have quit smoking and quit taking medication for a torn disc in my lower back from a car accident I was in 10 months ago. I have quit honey, tuna, blue cheese, and deli meats. I am still drinking a glass of hot tea every morning because otherwise I get migraines daily. My doctor has advised me on the following: don&#8217;t drink, but one glass of wine once a month will not hurt that baby, don&#8217;t smoke&#8211;but if you are going to smoke then smoke two cigarettes a day and not 20, don&#8217;t drink caffeine&#8211;although the studies used to suggest caffeine causes miscarriages were done on mice not humans and those mice were given the equivalent of 70 cups of coffee in one day, etc&#8230; My point is I am being conservative in this pregnancy because it gives me peace of mind, but this mass hysteria we put pregnant woman through is ridiculous. I wonder if men had to carry the children would everyone&#8217;s attitude be so militant? And I love how a male bartender is an expert on pregnancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Abstinance is best, but not hysteria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abstinance is best, but not hysteria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 05:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m coming here late in the game, but I do want to remark that while alcohol is dangerous, it isn&#039;t as dangerous as some things a pregant woman might ingest, and moderate alcohol consumption before the woman even knows she is pregnant is probably not harmful.  

The reason I bring this up is because some women have gotten the &quot;no alcohol&quot; message so well, that when they have learned they were pregant which means they had unwittingly been drinking during early pregancy have considered getting an abortion because they are afraid that their child will have horrible birth defects!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming here late in the game, but I do want to remark that while alcohol is dangerous, it isn&#8217;t as dangerous as some things a pregant woman might ingest, and moderate alcohol consumption before the woman even knows she is pregnant is probably not harmful.  </p>
<p>The reason I bring this up is because some women have gotten the &#8220;no alcohol&#8221; message so well, that when they have learned they were pregant which means they had unwittingly been drinking during early pregancy have considered getting an abortion because they are afraid that their child will have horrible birth defects!</p>
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		<title>By: Liesel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liesel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the best food for thought here is that you said it&#039;s like playing Russian Roulette. It is. I love to fuss over my kiddies and I have no problem starting even before they&#039;re born. I&#039;m one of the crazy over-the-top preggo&#039;s who follows all of the latest advice - even if it wasn&#039;t the latest advice when my mom was pregnant. What&#039;s the big deal with laying off the sauce during pregnancy? Why not? If you&#039;re looking for info to tell you it&#039;s probably safe, you can find it...everywhere. Make your own decisions, but don&#039;t disregard good information because it poses a threat to your justification of moderate drinking while pregnant. Remember, it&#039;s one glass of wine to you and your 150 lb. body, but your little sweetness trying to grow a brain in there is less than a pound for 1/2 of your pregnancy and only a few pounds more for the rest. Metabolizing in ounces of body weight is a much different task than metabolizing in 100+ pounds. 

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the best food for thought here is that you said it&#8217;s like playing Russian Roulette. It is. I love to fuss over my kiddies and I have no problem starting even before they&#8217;re born. I&#8217;m one of the crazy over-the-top preggo&#8217;s who follows all of the latest advice &#8211; even if it wasn&#8217;t the latest advice when my mom was pregnant. What&#8217;s the big deal with laying off the sauce during pregnancy? Why not? If you&#8217;re looking for info to tell you it&#8217;s probably safe, you can find it&#8230;everywhere. Make your own decisions, but don&#8217;t disregard good information because it poses a threat to your justification of moderate drinking while pregnant. Remember, it&#8217;s one glass of wine to you and your 150 lb. body, but your little sweetness trying to grow a brain in there is less than a pound for 1/2 of your pregnancy and only a few pounds more for the rest. Metabolizing in ounces of body weight is a much different task than metabolizing in 100+ pounds. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: ND</title>
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		<dc:creator>ND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm… I stand totally under correction here, but as far as I&#039;m aware, mother and baby have totally separate blood systems (and can—and often do—even have totally different blood types). In any case, any woman who&#039;s not willing to forgo drinking for the health of her child must be suffering from FAS, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm… I stand totally under correction here, but as far as I&#8217;m aware, mother and baby have totally separate blood systems (and can—and often do—even have totally different blood types). In any case, any woman who&#8217;s not willing to forgo drinking for the health of her child must be suffering from FAS, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is great overall (especially laying out what the risks are in each trimester) but, like Jacob and McAuliflower, I object to your saying having even the occasional drink is like playing  Russian Roulette.

&quot;Mercury is a teratogen. ... The thing is, nobody is suggesting that low-levels of these things might be okay because they’re not socially acceptable in the way alcohol is.&quot;

That would be a great point to support your argument except that, in the case of mercury in fish, the food guidelines for pregnancy do suggest what very low levels of mercury are okay because the benefit of protein and DHA and other good fatty acids in fish outweigh the risk.  And as with alcohol there&#039;s controversy over what level of fish consumption is safe: http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/007395.html

I agree that drinking during pregnancy is risky but it&#039;s impossible to eliminate risk and I&#039;m not convinced by the scientific evidence that total abstinence is necessary.  If I really wanted to reduce risk to my unborn child I&#039;d be avoiding driving in cars rather than abstaining from a weekly glass of wine.  But the two or three tiny sips of wine I&#039;ve had while pregnant made it evident my taste buds aren&#039;t into it right now so I&#039;m teetotaling despite not thinking it&#039;s necessary.

In the spring the UK released new guidelines advocating total abstinence from alcohol, but a recent news report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7039249.stm) said they&#039;re likely to go back to a safe in moderation approach:

&quot;Pregnant women can safely drink a small glass of wine a day, official advice is set to say.&quot;

Anyone who wants to bang on about how reprehensible and irresponsible it is to adopt a (measurably) moderate but non-abstinent approach to alcohol during pregnancy should read this article on how much of the advice to pregnant women is unscientific:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,2089968,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is great overall (especially laying out what the risks are in each trimester) but, like Jacob and McAuliflower, I object to your saying having even the occasional drink is like playing  Russian Roulette.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mercury is a teratogen. &#8230; The thing is, nobody is suggesting that low-levels of these things might be okay because they’re not socially acceptable in the way alcohol is.&#8221;</p>
<p>That would be a great point to support your argument except that, in the case of mercury in fish, the food guidelines for pregnancy do suggest what very low levels of mercury are okay because the benefit of protein and DHA and other good fatty acids in fish outweigh the risk.  And as with alcohol there&#8217;s controversy over what level of fish consumption is safe: <a href="http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/007395.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/007395.html</a></p>
<p>I agree that drinking during pregnancy is risky but it&#8217;s impossible to eliminate risk and I&#8217;m not convinced by the scientific evidence that total abstinence is necessary.  If I really wanted to reduce risk to my unborn child I&#8217;d be avoiding driving in cars rather than abstaining from a weekly glass of wine.  But the two or three tiny sips of wine I&#8217;ve had while pregnant made it evident my taste buds aren&#8217;t into it right now so I&#8217;m teetotaling despite not thinking it&#8217;s necessary.</p>
<p>In the spring the UK released new guidelines advocating total abstinence from alcohol, but a recent news report (<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7039249.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7039249.stm</a>) said they&#8217;re likely to go back to a safe in moderation approach:</p>
<p>&#8220;Pregnant women can safely drink a small glass of wine a day, official advice is set to say.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone who wants to bang on about how reprehensible and irresponsible it is to adopt a (measurably) moderate but non-abstinent approach to alcohol during pregnancy should read this article on how much of the advice to pregnant women is unscientific:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,2089968,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,2089968,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t even tell you all how quickly I would fire a doctor if they told me or my fiance that she could drink during pregnancy. Despite a general lack of research into exactly how much alcohol a person can drink before a significant threat is posed, what kind of person would even be willing to take that kind of chance? The effects of FES are irreversible, crippling, and varied.

The most cliched tenet of the medical profession is &quot;do no harm&quot;, but there&#039;s an extremely good reason it&#039;s repeated so often. To tell a parent they can inbibe alcohol, even if it&#039;s in minute amounts, is to create the potential for harm, and thus is reprehensible and irresponsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t even tell you all how quickly I would fire a doctor if they told me or my fiance that she could drink during pregnancy. Despite a general lack of research into exactly how much alcohol a person can drink before a significant threat is posed, what kind of person would even be willing to take that kind of chance? The effects of FES are irreversible, crippling, and varied.</p>
<p>The most cliched tenet of the medical profession is &#8220;do no harm&#8221;, but there&#8217;s an extremely good reason it&#8217;s repeated so often. To tell a parent they can inbibe alcohol, even if it&#8217;s in minute amounts, is to create the potential for harm, and thus is reprehensible and irresponsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious if you have ever had an incident where you were asked to serve alcohol to a pregnant woman. Is it your place to refuse to serve her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious if you have ever had an incident where you were asked to serve alcohol to a pregnant woman. Is it your place to refuse to serve her?</p>
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		<title>By: Mata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article and very informative.  Ok so some of it was a bit strong but who cares - you shouldn&#039;t drink while pregnant!  It&#039;s only 9 months!!!  Save the drinking for AFTER and believe me if you&#039;re a drinker you&#039;ll drink AFTER many times!  You know there&#039;s so much to worry and think about while pregnant that one has NO control over so feel good and control the few things you know will help your pregnancy and baby: watch what you eat, exercise, be good to yourself and DO NOT DRINK!  Easy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and very informative.  Ok so some of it was a bit strong but who cares &#8211; you shouldn&#8217;t drink while pregnant!  It&#8217;s only 9 months!!!  Save the drinking for AFTER and believe me if you&#8217;re a drinker you&#8217;ll drink AFTER many times!  You know there&#8217;s so much to worry and think about while pregnant that one has NO control over so feel good and control the few things you know will help your pregnancy and baby: watch what you eat, exercise, be good to yourself and DO NOT DRINK!  Easy!</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well of course I&#039;m not your younger sister.. because I am older.. if only by a months :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well of course I&#8217;m not your younger sister.. because I am older.. if only by a months :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear the above commenter is not my younger sister.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear the above commenter is not my younger sister.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it really that hard to NOT drink for nine months regardless of what may or may not happen to the unborn?

I mean really? Are these women that dependent on alcohol that they can&#039;t wait?

If you really need your fix of some froofroo drink any good bartender can hook you up with something non-alcoholic.

If that won&#039;t do it for you and you must have that alcohol, find a GOOD doctor and park your a$$ in rehab until the urge passes or that baby is born.

There is always going to be some study that will say that another study is bogus. Go LOOK at those babies that were born to mothers that drank during pregnancy (the only abnormal thing they did) and see for yourself.

As always, this is MY OPINION. And yes, I have two children. I never took a drink of alcohol with either one. My mother drank with my older brother and he is a blithering idiot.. see???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it really that hard to NOT drink for nine months regardless of what may or may not happen to the unborn?</p>
<p>I mean really? Are these women that dependent on alcohol that they can&#8217;t wait?</p>
<p>If you really need your fix of some froofroo drink any good bartender can hook you up with something non-alcoholic.</p>
<p>If that won&#8217;t do it for you and you must have that alcohol, find a GOOD doctor and park your a$$ in rehab until the urge passes or that baby is born.</p>
<p>There is always going to be some study that will say that another study is bogus. Go LOOK at those babies that were born to mothers that drank during pregnancy (the only abnormal thing they did) and see for yourself.</p>
<p>As always, this is MY OPINION. And yes, I have two children. I never took a drink of alcohol with either one. My mother drank with my older brother and he is a blithering idiot.. see???</p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
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		<dc:creator>canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>charles said it w/his #2. 
and, come on, you ask a bartender for approval to drink while pregnant? I would HOPE s/he would respond like jeffrey has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>charles said it w/his #2.<br />
and, come on, you ask a bartender for approval to drink while pregnant? I would HOPE s/he would respond like jeffrey has.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dietsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dietsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The food blogger Meg Hourihan published a thoughtful and extensive post a couple of weeks ago about what she ate while pregnant.

http://www.megnut.com/2007/07/how-i-ate-while-pregnant

The comments on that post are very thoughtful and enlightening, and I think her post provides a good complement to yours, Jeffrey.

She doesn&#039;t specifically discuss alcohol in the post, but she does mention it in a comment. She mostly talks about some of the other things that an expectant mother &quot;shouldn&#039;t&quot; risk, such as soft cheeses, deli meats, shellfish, and tuna.

It is sad, however, how many women report getting hassled by strangers for having had a glass of wine in a restaurant while pregnant. Then there&#039;s the woman who was buying a six pack of beer FOR HER HUSBAND and got scolded by the clerk. As if that clerk has never sold beer to someone who then drove drunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The food blogger Meg Hourihan published a thoughtful and extensive post a couple of weeks ago about what she ate while pregnant.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.megnut.com/2007/07/how-i-ate-while-pregnant" rel="nofollow">http://www.megnut.com/2007/07/how-i-ate-while-pregnant</a></p>
<p>The comments on that post are very thoughtful and enlightening, and I think her post provides a good complement to yours, Jeffrey.</p>
<p>She doesn&#8217;t specifically discuss alcohol in the post, but she does mention it in a comment. She mostly talks about some of the other things that an expectant mother &#8220;shouldn&#8217;t&#8221; risk, such as soft cheeses, deli meats, shellfish, and tuna.</p>
<p>It is sad, however, how many women report getting hassled by strangers for having had a glass of wine in a restaurant while pregnant. Then there&#8217;s the woman who was buying a six pack of beer FOR HER HUSBAND and got scolded by the clerk. As if that clerk has never sold beer to someone who then drove drunk.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While a bartender does not a medical doctor make, I did have the good fortune to work for four years as a research assistant at Oregon Research Institute, in cooperation with the University of New Mexico, on a project dealing with FAS and public knowledge.

While I wasn&#039;t in direct contact with the folks down in the trenches doing the medical research, the scientists I worked for were constantly making sure they had the most up-to-date information on the subject.

During my time working there, I learned that while it has not been shown that all levels of alcohol introduced during pregnancy are detrimental, it has been proven that alcohol is what&#039;s called a teratogen (a chemical, disease or element known to detrimentally affect a fetus), so there&#039;s no way it can be considered 100% safe.

&lt;strong&gt;Mercury&lt;/strong&gt; is a teratogen.  So is &lt;strong&gt;cocaine&lt;/strong&gt;.  And &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;German measles&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.  The thing is, nobody is suggesting that low-levels of these things might be okay because they&#039;re not socially acceptable in the way alcohol is.

I know it&#039;s a mine-field, but:

&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;It&#039;s better than not talking about it at all.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I&#039;ll be back to giving the liquor companies a big hand-job with my next post.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While a bartender does not a medical doctor make, I did have the good fortune to work for four years as a research assistant at Oregon Research Institute, in cooperation with the University of New Mexico, on a project dealing with FAS and public knowledge.</p>
<p>While I wasn&#8217;t in direct contact with the folks down in the trenches doing the medical research, the scientists I worked for were constantly making sure they had the most up-to-date information on the subject.</p>
<p>During my time working there, I learned that while it has not been shown that all levels of alcohol introduced during pregnancy are detrimental, it has been proven that alcohol is what&#8217;s called a teratogen (a chemical, disease or element known to detrimentally affect a fetus), so there&#8217;s no way it can be considered 100% safe.</p>
<p><strong>Mercury</strong> is a teratogen.  So is <strong>cocaine</strong>.  And <strong><em>German measles</em></strong>.  The thing is, nobody is suggesting that low-levels of these things might be okay because they&#8217;re not socially acceptable in the way alcohol is.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s a mine-field, but:</p>
<ul>
<li>It&#8217;s better than not talking about it at all.</li>
<li>I&#8217;ll be back to giving the liquor companies a big hand-job with my next post.</li>
</ul>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two cents on the matter.

1. As a psychologist -- who worked for 5 years with children in residential treatment centers.  FAS sucks, big time.  We had kids with early onset schizophrenia, kids whos parents used crack, kids from abusive homes, and by far the most difficult to control were the kids with FAS.  Hands down.  No drink or period of relaxation is worth that toss of the dice.  Want to relax? Get a massage.

2.  As a parent -- Parenting is sacrifice, learn it now and learn it well.  9 - 12 months with no beer, what a pitty.  I haven&#039;t gone to the bathroom or taken a shower with the door closed for 4 years.  I pay more than $600 a month for part-time child care.  I have *never* finished an entire bowl of ice cream by my self.  And, now that both my kids are out of the womb, after they go to bed, the wife and I can share a beer while ruminating about the real sacrifices of parenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two cents on the matter.</p>
<p>1. As a psychologist &#8212; who worked for 5 years with children in residential treatment centers.  FAS sucks, big time.  We had kids with early onset schizophrenia, kids whos parents used crack, kids from abusive homes, and by far the most difficult to control were the kids with FAS.  Hands down.  No drink or period of relaxation is worth that toss of the dice.  Want to relax? Get a massage.</p>
<p>2.  As a parent &#8212; Parenting is sacrifice, learn it now and learn it well.  9 &#8211; 12 months with no beer, what a pitty.  I haven&#8217;t gone to the bathroom or taken a shower with the door closed for 4 years.  I pay more than $600 a month for part-time child care.  I have *never* finished an entire bowl of ice cream by my self.  And, now that both my kids are out of the womb, after they go to bed, the wife and I can share a beer while ruminating about the real sacrifices of parenting.</p>
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		<title>By: McAuliflower</title>
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		<dc:creator>McAuliflower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:sigh: 
this is such a mine-field.

While I regard you to be an expert in respect to alcohol, a bartender does not a medical doctor make.  Heck, even most medical doctors are not studied enough to prepare women for childbirth.

Your advice is sound for heavy to regular drinkers during pregnancy, however it has not been shown that all levels of alcohol introduced during pregnancy are detrimental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:sigh:<br />
this is such a mine-field.</p>
<p>While I regard you to be an expert in respect to alcohol, a bartender does not a medical doctor make.  Heck, even most medical doctors are not studied enough to prepare women for childbirth.</p>
<p>Your advice is sound for heavy to regular drinkers during pregnancy, however it has not been shown that all levels of alcohol introduced during pregnancy are detrimental.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Scherer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Scherer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure what some of your respondents are reading, but I know that the Air Force has done some significant studies on the impact of alcohol and impending motherhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure what some of your respondents are reading, but I know that the Air Force has done some significant studies on the impact of alcohol and impending motherhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Daf</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2007/ask-your-bartender-drinking-while-pregnant-its-cool-right/comment-page-1/#comment-13005</link>
		<dc:creator>Daf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Jeffrey, I think the main point here is that &quot;there is no proven safe level of alcohol consumption during pregnancy&quot; and I&#039;ll stick to that. For the past 5 months that I&#039;m pregnant I&#039;ve quit alcohol and it&#039;s not that I don&#039;t miss it. After all it&#039;s a good detox for me since I&#039;ve been a real &#039;party animal&#039; before my pregnancy. I&#039;ll check out for sure those preggatinis.. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Jeffrey, I think the main point here is that &#8220;there is no proven safe level of alcohol consumption during pregnancy&#8221; and I&#8217;ll stick to that. For the past 5 months that I&#8217;m pregnant I&#8217;ve quit alcohol and it&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t miss it. After all it&#8217;s a good detox for me since I&#8217;ve been a real &#8216;party animal&#8217; before my pregnancy. I&#8217;ll check out for sure those preggatinis.. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Marleigh</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2007/ask-your-bartender-drinking-while-pregnant-its-cool-right/comment-page-1/#comment-12980</link>
		<dc:creator>Marleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey,

I liked your post. I&#039;d much rather read you advocating abstinence during pregnancy than telling everyone that &quot;moderation&quot; (it being a vague, mutable term) is totally fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey,</p>
<p>I liked your post. I&#8217;d much rather read you advocating abstinence during pregnancy than telling everyone that &#8220;moderation&#8221; (it being a vague, mutable term) is totally fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2007/ask-your-bartender-drinking-while-pregnant-its-cool-right/comment-page-1/#comment-12979</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL - Thanks, Jacob.  I&#039;ll try not to let it go to my head!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8211; Thanks, Jacob.  I&#8217;ll try not to let it go to my head!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Grier</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2007/ask-your-bartender-drinking-while-pregnant-its-cool-right/comment-page-1/#comment-12978</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Grier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, no worries. There&#039;s some good info here, and fwiw I think you&#039;ve still got one of the highest &quot;hit to waste of time ratios&quot; of just about any blogger I read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, no worries. There&#8217;s some good info here, and fwiw I think you&#8217;ve still got one of the highest &#8220;hit to waste of time ratios&#8221; of just about any blogger I read.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2007/ask-your-bartender-drinking-while-pregnant-its-cool-right/comment-page-1/#comment-12977</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, everyone.  I don&#039;t want to come off as trying to take a moral high-ground.  I&#039;m a bartender, after all, and my livelihood depends on, well, basically selling people poison (albeit poison that, in moderation, can be part of an active and healthy lifestyle)

My point is that there are a lot of people out there who don&#039;t know the potential dangers of alcohol, so I just wanted to take a minute away from writing about the joys of orange bitters and freshly-squeezed juices and drop some other information on ya.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, everyone.  I don&#8217;t want to come off as trying to take a moral high-ground.  I&#8217;m a bartender, after all, and my livelihood depends on, well, basically selling people poison (albeit poison that, in moderation, can be part of an active and healthy lifestyle)</p>
<p>My point is that there are a lot of people out there who don&#8217;t know the potential dangers of alcohol, so I just wanted to take a minute away from writing about the joys of orange bitters and freshly-squeezed juices and drop some other information on ya.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mom of two here.

Mom and baby do not share a blood supply. They each have their own. They exchange nutrition and gas but are separate. Take it from a woman who had two RhoGAM shots per child.

I think this is a reflection of the insanity around pregnancy and child-rearing these days. Yes, we can go nuts, never eating tuna for fear of mercury, never using vanilla for the alcohol content, never drinking decaf coffee for fear of the caffeine content or the chemicals involved in the decaffeination process, never eating peanuts for fear of allergies... You&#039;d have to live in a bubble and never do anything. And pregnant women will find themselves doing that if they do everything they&#039;re &quot;supposed&quot; to do.

By the time I was 2 weeks late, my OB&#039;s opinion was, &quot;Honey, you&#039;re so stressed out and miserable, that&#039;s having more of an impact on the baby than 2 oz of beer to help you relax.&quot; By the time you&#039;ve stopped drinking for 6 or 7 or 8 months 2 oz is plenty anyway. 

A sip here or there isn&#039;t going to hurt anyone, IMO. It will do much less harm than embracing &quot;pregnancy insanity&quot; and being nervous, miserable and frightened for 9 (10) months!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mom of two here.</p>
<p>Mom and baby do not share a blood supply. They each have their own. They exchange nutrition and gas but are separate. Take it from a woman who had two RhoGAM shots per child.</p>
<p>I think this is a reflection of the insanity around pregnancy and child-rearing these days. Yes, we can go nuts, never eating tuna for fear of mercury, never using vanilla for the alcohol content, never drinking decaf coffee for fear of the caffeine content or the chemicals involved in the decaffeination process, never eating peanuts for fear of allergies&#8230; You&#8217;d have to live in a bubble and never do anything. And pregnant women will find themselves doing that if they do everything they&#8217;re &#8220;supposed&#8221; to do.</p>
<p>By the time I was 2 weeks late, my OB&#8217;s opinion was, &#8220;Honey, you&#8217;re so stressed out and miserable, that&#8217;s having more of an impact on the baby than 2 oz of beer to help you relax.&#8221; By the time you&#8217;ve stopped drinking for 6 or 7 or 8 months 2 oz is plenty anyway. </p>
<p>A sip here or there isn&#8217;t going to hurt anyone, IMO. It will do much less harm than embracing &#8220;pregnancy insanity&#8221; and being nervous, miserable and frightened for 9 (10) months!</p>
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		<title>By: Marleigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad there&#039;s a man around with a superior intellect to stand up for we stupid women who can&#039;t read a blog post advocating not drinking during pregnancy without being brainwashed by it!

Phew. To think, being an adult means I could actually read someone&#039;s opinion AND think about it AND make up my own mind. The world is so advanced for we girls these days...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad there&#8217;s a man around with a superior intellect to stand up for we stupid women who can&#8217;t read a blog post advocating not drinking during pregnancy without being brainwashed by it!</p>
<p>Phew. To think, being an adult means I could actually read someone&#8217;s opinion AND think about it AND make up my own mind. The world is so advanced for we girls these days&#8230;</p>
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