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	<title>Comments on: New Cocktail Menu at El Vaquero</title>
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	<description>Jeffrey Morgenthaler writes about bartending and mixology from Portland, Oregon</description>
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		<title>By: ND</title>
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		<dc:creator>ND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the correct spellings certainly aren&#039;t redundant (even in the US!). Scotch is always spelled &quot;Whisky&quot;, and Irish is always spelled &quot;Whiskey&quot;. Not sure about the others, but there you go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the correct spellings certainly aren&#8217;t redundant (even in the US!). Scotch is always spelled &#8220;Whisky&#8221;, and Irish is always spelled &#8220;Whiskey&#8221;. Not sure about the others, but there you go.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Shawn!  I fixed your URL, there, looks like you forgot a &#039;w&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Shawn!  I fixed your URL, there, looks like you forgot a &#8216;w&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Last Barman Poet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Last Barman Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it alot Jeff, Good Work.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith

You&#039;re exactly right!  I wanted people to open themselves up to something new, and I was afraid of alienating people with egg whites.  We of course use them in the drink, wouldn&#039;t be a traditional Pisco Sour without them!

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2005/brisa/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brisa&lt;/a&gt; is equal parts vodka, orange liqueur (we use Patron Citronge) and grapefruit juice - up.

I&#039;ll have to check in the next time I&#039;m in Seattle, an old dear friend of mine tends bar at the Virginia Inn.  If you&#039;re ever there, tell Freddy that Morgenthaler sent you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith</p>
<p>You&#8217;re exactly right!  I wanted people to open themselves up to something new, and I was afraid of alienating people with egg whites.  We of course use them in the drink, wouldn&#8217;t be a traditional Pisco Sour without them!</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2005/brisa/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Brisa</a> is equal parts vodka, orange liqueur (we use Patron Citronge) and grapefruit juice &#8211; up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to check in the next time I&#8217;m in Seattle, an old dear friend of mine tends bar at the Virginia Inn.  If you&#8217;re ever there, tell Freddy that Morgenthaler sent you.</p>
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		<title>By: keith waldbauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith waldbauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jeffrey, i like your menu.  a good mix of classics, classics re-interpreted and house-made inventions.  

curious why you didn&#039;t list the ingredients on the pisco sour.  using the traditional method, i&#039;d assume you use egg whites... knowing egg whites turn people off for fear of salmonella poisoning, i&#039;m sure you left out the ingredients for that reason.  is that correct?

also, what makes the Brisa a Brisa and not a Greyhound...?

gonna have to make a trip to Eugene soon

cheers
keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeffrey, i like your menu.  a good mix of classics, classics re-interpreted and house-made inventions.  </p>
<p>curious why you didn&#8217;t list the ingredients on the pisco sour.  using the traditional method, i&#8217;d assume you use egg whites&#8230; knowing egg whites turn people off for fear of salmonella poisoning, i&#8217;m sure you left out the ingredients for that reason.  is that correct?</p>
<p>also, what makes the Brisa a Brisa and not a Greyhound&#8230;?</p>
<p>gonna have to make a trip to Eugene soon</p>
<p>cheers<br />
keith</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Summer!  But I don&#039;t understand why it&#039;s redundant, I have Irish Whiskey, American Whiskey, and Scotch Whisky, is that not right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Summer!  But I don&#8217;t understand why it&#8217;s redundant, I have Irish Whiskey, American Whiskey, and Scotch Whisky, is that not right?</p>
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		<title>By: Summer Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Summer Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note --

I think the menu looks wonderful! But I&#039;d add a caveat that many people on this side of the Pond make this same mistake:

You list Whisky and Whiskey; Irish, American, and Scotch.  That&#039;s rather redundant.  

The DRINK is scotch whiskey, the nationality is SCOTS, or so my Grandda Ross always insisted. But then, he also insisted that anyone who drank ice with their whiskey was a Sassenach (English)so and so.

Slainte!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note &#8211;</p>
<p>I think the menu looks wonderful! But I&#8217;d add a caveat that many people on this side of the Pond make this same mistake:</p>
<p>You list Whisky and Whiskey; Irish, American, and Scotch.  That&#8217;s rather redundant.  </p>
<p>The DRINK is scotch whiskey, the nationality is SCOTS, or so my Grandda Ross always insisted. But then, he also insisted that anyone who drank ice with their whiskey was a Sassenach (English)so and so.</p>
<p>Slainte!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 02:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops!  And here I pride myself on catching stuff like that, thanks for actually paying attention.

I&#039;m reprinting the menus tomorrow, when I add another drink to the list: the Tomato Daiquiri.

You heard me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops!  And here I pride myself on catching stuff like that, thanks for actually paying attention.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reprinting the menus tomorrow, when I add another drink to the list: the Tomato Daiquiri.</p>
<p>You heard me.</p>
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		<title>By: Redthought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redthought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 15:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent options, I&#039;d have a hard time deciding.

I&#039;m glad to see the whisk(e)y spit up like that. Nice.

I small editing note: you don&#039;t use dollar signs throughout, except with the beer list. Intentional?

I can&#039;t help it, sorry if it&#039;s out of line to edit the menu...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent options, I&#8217;d have a hard time deciding.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to see the whisk(e)y spit up like that. Nice.</p>
<p>I small editing note: you don&#8217;t use dollar signs throughout, except with the beer list. Intentional?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help it, sorry if it&#8217;s out of line to edit the menu&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: your little sister</title>
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		<dc:creator>your little sister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad to see Coors Light made the cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad to see Coors Light made the cut.</p>
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		<title>By: A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 08:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The menu looks lovely, and the drink selection looks wonderful (given my limited experience therein).  And as an almost absolute teetotaller (what&#039;m I doing here then, I know), thank you for having so many options for people who don&#039;t want to have alcohol.  Pomegrante juice is very yay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The menu looks lovely, and the drink selection looks wonderful (given my limited experience therein).  And as an almost absolute teetotaller (what&#8217;m I doing here then, I know), thank you for having so many options for people who don&#8217;t want to have alcohol.  Pomegrante juice is very yay.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks, everyone!  I still feel like I&#039;m a couple drinks shy of where I want to be, but when we&#039;re not cranking them out by the hundreds, we&#039;re searching for the right new flavors.  I&#039;ll post my findings if and when I get my act together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks, everyone!  I still feel like I&#8217;m a couple drinks shy of where I want to be, but when we&#8217;re not cranking them out by the hundreds, we&#8217;re searching for the right new flavors.  I&#8217;ll post my findings if and when I get my act together.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice. I like the limited &quot;classics&quot; with the twists.

Darcy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice. I like the limited &#8220;classics&#8221; with the twists.</p>
<p>Darcy</p>
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		<title>By: kevin ludwig</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really nice list.  i like the inclusion of the origins.  gets people thinking.  Great site, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really nice list.  i like the inclusion of the origins.  gets people thinking.  Great site, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant.</description>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff,

Nice menu. I&#039;m working on a new one right now too. I&#039;m going to send it to you for some back-and-forth. When it&#039;s done, I&#039;ll post it at the cocktail hour. 

Looks good, I&#039;m going to print it out and have a good look at it today. 

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>Nice menu. I&#8217;m working on a new one right now too. I&#8217;m going to send it to you for some back-and-forth. When it&#8217;s done, I&#8217;ll post it at the cocktail hour. </p>
<p>Looks good, I&#8217;m going to print it out and have a good look at it today. </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nacional sounds quite tasty.

Nice menu!</description>
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<p>Nice menu!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dominik, I&#039;d love to see your menu sometime,  you should drop me an email through the contact for if you have it on a computer!  I have a big collection of cocktail menus from around the world and am always interested in seeing more.

As for the drink descriptions, I prefer the minimal yet informative method.  I get tired reading huge descriptions, &quot;Cosmopolitan - Grey Goose vodka, triple sec, a squeeze of lime juice and a dash of cranberry, shaken and served up in a chilled martini glass with a wedge of lime&quot; seems more like a recipe than a listing on a menu.

And, yes, I copied that verbatim from one of the menus in my collection.  Yikes.

Take the Richmond Gimlet, for example.  My customers know that a gimlet is a lime-based cocktail, so I tell them that it&#039;s a) made with gin, Tanqueray 10 to be specific, and b) different because it has mint.  End of story!

This weekend will be the big test.  We&#039;re about to see if everyone likes the drinks and, more importantly, if the two of us can knock them all out in a timely fashion.  Wish us luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dominik, I&#8217;d love to see your menu sometime,  you should drop me an email through the contact for if you have it on a computer!  I have a big collection of cocktail menus from around the world and am always interested in seeing more.</p>
<p>As for the drink descriptions, I prefer the minimal yet informative method.  I get tired reading huge descriptions, &#8220;Cosmopolitan &#8211; Grey Goose vodka, triple sec, a squeeze of lime juice and a dash of cranberry, shaken and served up in a chilled martini glass with a wedge of lime&#8221; seems more like a recipe than a listing on a menu.</p>
<p>And, yes, I copied that verbatim from one of the menus in my collection.  Yikes.</p>
<p>Take the Richmond Gimlet, for example.  My customers know that a gimlet is a lime-based cocktail, so I tell them that it&#8217;s a) made with gin, Tanqueray 10 to be specific, and b) different because it has mint.  End of story!</p>
<p>This weekend will be the big test.  We&#8217;re about to see if everyone likes the drinks and, more importantly, if the two of us can knock them all out in a timely fashion.  Wish us luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Dominik MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominik MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice beverage menu!
I think you found an ideal balance between this pompous beverage explanation and the minimalistic bullet point listing of ingredients- well done!
I&#039;ve created last year more a bible of a menu - but my understanding changes now slightly and I prefer now more a more a smaller selection of mixed drinks, which is changing more often... may be supported by the complete list!

Cheers!

DMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice beverage menu!<br />
I think you found an ideal balance between this pompous beverage explanation and the minimalistic bullet point listing of ingredients- well done!<br />
I&#8217;ve created last year more a bible of a menu &#8211; but my understanding changes now slightly and I prefer now more a more a smaller selection of mixed drinks, which is changing more often&#8230; may be supported by the complete list!</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>DMJ</p>
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