Comments on: Dark and Stormy http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/ Jeffrey Morgenthaler writes about bartending and mixology from Portland, Oregon Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:25:19 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Ted Mills http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-426531 Ted Mills Mon, 10 Dec 2012 04:52:11 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-426531 Jeffrey, My local fine cocktail emporium features cocktails and their debut date. Their earliest is a Dark 'n' Stormy with the date listed as unknown. I'm surprised that you have this listed as a trademarked Gosling's drink without any mention of a reference. For one thing I don't believe they have the lockdown on a very old cocktail, when the Old Fashioned and Manhattans are "public domain", and I was hoping you'd weigh in on this. Where's your proof, other than a Gosling's press release, that they "invented" this cocktail? I call bullshit. Jeffrey,

My local fine cocktail emporium features cocktails and their debut date. Their earliest is a Dark ‘n’ Stormy with the date listed as unknown.

I’m surprised that you have this listed as a trademarked Gosling’s drink without any mention of a reference.

For one thing I don’t believe they have the lockdown on a very old cocktail, when the Old Fashioned and Manhattans are “public domain”, and I was hoping you’d weigh in on this.

Where’s your proof, other than a Gosling’s press release, that they “invented” this cocktail?
I call bullshit.

]]> By: Carl-Johan http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-426399 Carl-Johan Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:17:07 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-426399 I just made five bottles of this and two bottles of homemade Kahlua for a party this Saturday. It tastes divine, running to the liquor store for some Black Seal now! I just made five bottles of this and two bottles of homemade Kahlua for a party this Saturday.
It tastes divine, running to the liquor store for some Black Seal now!

]]> By: Joel http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-426182 Joel Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:56:18 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-426182 Janet, I know this answer is three years late, but Whaler's rum is excellent in a Dark & Stormy. Whaler's smells wonderfully like brown sugar and vanilla and makes for a very dark and very delicious Dark & Stormy. Enjoy. Janet,

I know this answer is three years late, but Whaler’s rum is excellent in a Dark & Stormy. Whaler’s smells wonderfully like brown sugar and vanilla and makes for a very dark and very delicious Dark & Stormy.

Enjoy.

]]> By: paul http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-384215 paul Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:53:39 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-384215 What about floating some domains de canton on the top of a dark and stormy. Is that sacrilegious? What about floating some domains de canton on the top of a dark and stormy. Is that sacrilegious?

]]> By: randy http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-374782 randy Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:29:17 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-374782 Introduced to the drink this summer. It's perfectly complimented by a large leafy sprig of horehound (the plant)as the garnish. Also, a chunk of fresh ginger and a couple of drops of blackstrap. Introduced to the drink this summer. It’s perfectly complimented by a large leafy sprig of horehound (the plant)as the garnish. Also, a chunk of fresh ginger and a couple of drops of blackstrap.

]]> By: Marlene Glaser http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-364891 Marlene Glaser Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:03:22 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-364891 I also agree with a poster above-- I highly recommend trying Buffalo Rock in a dark and stormy. It's a fiery ginger beverage that is somewhere between a ginger ale and a ginger bee. It's worshiped by many. I also agree with a poster above– I highly recommend trying Buffalo Rock in a dark and stormy. It’s a fiery ginger beverage that is somewhere between a ginger ale and a ginger bee. It’s worshiped by many.

]]> By: Karen http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-320056 Karen Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:55:24 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-320056 I use Maine Root Ginger Brew, bottled in Portland, ME, for my Dark and Stormy. It's very spicy and stands up well to the Black Seal rum. It's hard to get outside of Maine. It's also delicious alone if you can take the heat. I use Maine Root Ginger Brew, bottled in Portland, ME, for my Dark and Stormy. It’s very spicy and stands up well to the Black Seal rum. It’s hard to get outside of Maine. It’s also delicious alone if you can take the heat.

]]> By: prufrock http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-319805 prufrock Sat, 27 Aug 2011 15:13:11 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-319805 I put the Dark & Stormy on my cocktail menu a few years ago, and was using Barritt's-- but the cost per ounce was like using cans of Heineken. I don't believe in high price-points that prevent one from enjoying a second or third drink, so I looked online for a reasonably simple method of making my own ginger beer. I was a bit scared of the fermentation (and risk of inconsistent production, et al) so I did my own thing and ordered post-mix ginger ale in a tank, and added a solution of freshly juiced ginger and lemons. It tasted great-- had the bright heat of the ginger, the tart sharpness of the lemon juice, and the depth of sweetness and sparkle from the ginger ale. Cheap, and kind cheesy, but much more profitable than using partial cans of spendy ginger beer. I cannot wait to try this recipe--thanks! Also-- if you've never had Alnwick Vattted Rum, please do try to get some. I spent a year of college in Alnwick, and would make awesome Cuba Librés with their 92º rum. I believe it is a different rum now, but still.... check it out! I put the Dark & Stormy on my cocktail menu a few years ago, and was using Barritt’s– but the cost per ounce was like using cans of Heineken. I don’t believe in high price-points that prevent one from enjoying a second or third drink, so I looked online for a reasonably simple method of making my own ginger beer. I was a bit scared of the fermentation (and risk of inconsistent production, et al) so I did my own thing and ordered post-mix ginger ale in a tank, and added a solution of freshly juiced ginger and lemons. It tasted great– had the bright heat of the ginger, the tart sharpness of the lemon juice, and the depth of sweetness and sparkle from the ginger ale. Cheap, and kind cheesy, but much more profitable than using partial cans of spendy ginger beer. I cannot wait to try this recipe–thanks! Also– if you’ve never had Alnwick Vattted Rum, please do try to get some. I spent a year of college in Alnwick, and would make awesome Cuba Librés with their 92º rum. I believe it is a different rum now, but still…. check it out!

]]> By: Ivey http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-233669 Ivey Sun, 22 May 2011 17:46:22 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-233669 do u know where i can purchase a can of dark n stormy in the USA. i have really searched the web and can not find it. i want the can that is already mixed with the rum and ginger beer. pls let me know thank u do u know where i can purchase a can of dark n stormy in the USA. i have really searched the web and can not find it. i want the can that is already mixed with the rum and ginger beer. pls let me know
thank u

]]> By: oversea http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-191358 oversea Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:05:25 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-191358 Thanks for this simple and tasty recipe here Jeffrey! Made it about ten times now and i absolutely fell in love with it. Ginger Beer is hard to get here in germany so i am very thankful ! Many of Your ideas are a true inspiration to me. Greetings from germany Thanks for this simple and tasty recipe here Jeffrey! Made it about ten times now and i absolutely fell in love with it. Ginger Beer is hard to get here in germany so i am very thankful !
Many of Your ideas are a true inspiration to me.

Greetings from germany

]]> By: Peter S http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-126927 Peter S Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:04:42 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-126927 You missed the essential part of a Dark and Stormy: adding the Gosling's last! It creates the look of a dark cloud that settles into the drink, hence the name. You can mix it together after you serve it, but I say presentation matters. I know that's how it's done in Bermuda because I went there a year ago and Gosling's marketing director and Maxwell Gosling, heir to the company, came to my hotel for a rum tasting and they showed how to make the drink. You missed the essential part of a Dark and Stormy: adding the Gosling’s last! It creates the look of a dark cloud that settles into the drink, hence the name. You can mix it together after you serve it, but I say presentation matters. I know that’s how it’s done in Bermuda because I went there a year ago and Gosling’s marketing director and Maxwell Gosling, heir to the company, came to my hotel for a rum tasting and they showed how to make the drink.

]]> By: Janet http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-53013 Janet Thu, 21 May 2009 21:25:33 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-53013 What about using Whaler's Original Dark Rum? Anyone tried that? I saw it at Trader Joe's for $10.... What about using Whaler’s Original Dark Rum? Anyone tried that? I saw it at Trader Joe’s for $10….

]]> By: Laura http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-40172 Laura Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:45:22 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-40172 Jeff,Thank you for your quick reply. She may have heard it called that in her sailing circles. Especially since the ginger is good for any landlubbers that may be nausea. Jeff,Thank you for your quick reply. She may have heard it called that in her sailing circles. Especially since the ginger is good for any landlubbers that may be nausea.

]]> By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-40170 Jeffrey Morgenthaler Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:31:29 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-40170 Laura - As I've never heard of rum and ginger beer referred to as a "Stormy Sailor" I'm going to guess that your friend is one of the very few people that uses that particular name. The rest of us just call it a good old fashioned Dark and Stormy. Laura – As I’ve never heard of rum and ginger beer referred to as a “Stormy Sailor” I’m going to guess that your friend is one of the very few people that uses that particular name. The rest of us just call it a good old fashioned Dark and Stormy.

]]> By: Laura http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-40161 Laura Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:20:27 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-40161 Is this drink also known as a Stormy Sailor? A friend that sails one of the #1 rules is to keep the Captain supplied with Stormy Sailors. She said it is rum and ginger beer. This is the only drink I have found close to that description on the internet. Is this drink also known as a Stormy Sailor? A friend that sails one of the #1 rules is to keep the Captain supplied with Stormy Sailors. She said it is rum and ginger beer. This is the only drink I have found close to that description on the internet.

]]> By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-37460 Jeffrey Morgenthaler Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:31:25 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-37460 Yes, this method does work well with other types of sparkling beverages. Yes, this method does work well with other types of sparkling beverages.

]]> By: Corey http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-37372 Corey Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:31:01 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-37372 Really looking forward to trying the ginger beer recipe. Any idea if this method is applicable to other sparkling beverages? Sparkling fruit juices, per chance? Really looking forward to trying the ginger beer recipe. Any idea if this method is applicable to other sparkling beverages? Sparkling fruit juices, per chance?

]]> By: Marcus http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-30606 Marcus Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:52:30 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-30606 Gosling's should buy the picture to use on their site because their's looks rubbish. Well I can't even get the black seal from my local wine merchant. They do 24 other types of Caribbean rum! Bah... I looked online and found http://www.blackseal.co.uk though so I'll buy a bottle there I think. Can't get Barritt's either by the way (though I'm going to try your recipe first I reckon!). The site reccomends "Old Jamaican" Ginger Beer. I've tasted the difference between this one and supermarket stuff. It is a hell of a lot better. Seriously! Bermuda is a "British overseas territory"... And we can't even get their beer. (Actually I just found this one too: http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=2745 What is the overproof version like? Would be fun to have it flaming aswell, haha!) Gosling’s should buy the picture to use on their site because their’s looks rubbish.

Well I can’t even get the black seal from my local wine merchant. They do 24 other types of Caribbean rum! Bah… I looked online and found http://www.blackseal.co.uk though so I’ll buy a bottle there I think.

Can’t get Barritt’s either by the way (though I’m going to try your recipe first I reckon!). The site reccomends “Old Jamaican” Ginger Beer. I’ve tasted the difference between this one and supermarket stuff. It is a hell of a lot better.

Seriously! Bermuda is a “British overseas territory”… And we can’t even get their beer.

(Actually I just found this one too: http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=2745
What is the overproof version like? Would be fun to have it flaming aswell, haha!)

]]> By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-30597 Jeffrey Morgenthaler Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:03:49 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-30597 Marcus - Yes, I'm taking all the photos for my site now, and thank you. I was really happy with the way that one turned out. Mike S. - Picked up some Bundaberg this weekend at Cost Plus and you're right - it is excellent stuff. Marcus – Yes, I’m taking all the photos for my site now, and thank you. I was really happy with the way that one turned out.

Mike S. – Picked up some Bundaberg this weekend at Cost Plus and you’re right – it is excellent stuff.

]]> By: Marcus http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-30594 Marcus Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:46:48 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-30594 do you take the photos of your drinks? the photo up the top there is a beautiful shot of a dark n stormy! i'm off out to buy some black seal today because of it... do you take the photos of your drinks? the photo up the top there is a beautiful shot of a dark n stormy! i’m off out to buy some black seal today because of it…

]]> By: Ouroboros http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-29715 Ouroboros Sat, 03 May 2008 19:25:30 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-29715 I've not had the Blenheim for years. Thanks for reminding me that I must order a case! I’ve not had the Blenheim for years. Thanks for reminding me that I must order a case!

]]> By: dave http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-29703 dave Sat, 03 May 2008 04:06:36 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-29703 My favorite Ginger Beer is Regatta, it's nice and spicey but has a real mellow finish, even a little citrusy, it's a Bermuda Ginger Beer so makes a great Dark and Stormy. I usually drink with Gosling's but but Mt Gay and the dark Tommy Bahama Rum work great. My favorite Ginger Beer is Regatta, it’s nice and spicey but has a real mellow finish, even a little citrusy, it’s a Bermuda Ginger Beer so makes a great Dark and Stormy. I usually drink with Gosling’s but but Mt Gay and the dark Tommy Bahama Rum work great.

]]> By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-29659 Jeffrey Morgenthaler Thu, 01 May 2008 05:55:21 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-29659 Sheesh, Mike, I was trying to score some free samples. But I guess I'll go shopping for yet more cocktail ingredients. Thanks a lot! Jeff Sheesh, Mike, I was trying to score some free samples. But I guess I’ll go shopping for yet more cocktail ingredients.

Thanks a lot!

Jeff

]]> By: Mike S. http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-29657 Mike S. Thu, 01 May 2008 05:52:16 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-29657 Beverages & More in CA carries it, and I think they'll ship -- www.bevmo.com. Cheers! Beverages & More in CA carries it, and I think they’ll ship — http://www.bevmo.com.

Cheers!

]]> By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/comment-page-1/#comment-29586 Jeffrey Morgenthaler Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:53:45 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/dark-and-stormy/#comment-29586 I haven't had the opportunity to try Bundaberg. Anyone want to send me a sample? Jeff I haven’t had the opportunity to try Bundaberg. Anyone want to send me a sample?

Jeff

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