Comments on: How to Use the Web to Connect to the Global Bar Community http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/ Jeffrey Morgenthaler writes about bartending and mixology from Portland, Oregon Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:40:59 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Spencer http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-293225 Spencer Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:38:01 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-293225 So? It's a few years later... How HAS it changed? Hopefully a few of those zeroes of that percentage have been taken out... So? It’s a few years later… How HAS it changed? Hopefully a few of those zeroes of that percentage have been taken out…

]]> By: keith waldbauer http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35717 keith waldbauer Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:17:31 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35717 Dude, absolutely killer work. You nailed it. Honestly, you really should propose this as a panel for next years Tales, as an illustration of how bartenders can increase their business and exposure through the Internet. I know I get a lot of offers and stuff I wouldn't ordinarily get without the online networking and writing that I do. I get quite a few bartenders asking me about it, and I think your presentation would be a big benefit to other bartenders. Great stuff Dude, absolutely killer work. You nailed it. Honestly, you really should propose this as a panel for next years Tales, as an illustration of how bartenders can increase their business and exposure through the Internet. I know I get a lot of offers and stuff I wouldn’t ordinarily get without the online networking and writing that I do. I get quite a few bartenders asking me about it, and I think your presentation would be a big benefit to other bartenders.

Great stuff

]]> By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35550 Jeffrey Morgenthaler Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:13:53 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35550 Thanks, Evan and Dominik! As I mentioned, I was pretty nervous going into this, but as I started talking to people I realized that not everyone is as entrenched in the online cocktail world as some of us seem to be, and that I had a real opportunity to share some of my insight. The BCB was very well done: it seemed small enough to be manageable, the brands and vendors were all pertinent to the current atmosphere (there weren't 20 different energy drinks - such a refreshing change) and the presentations all felt very hand selected. Everyone that I spoke with was very impressed with the Bar Convent and I hope it continues to stay on such a positive path! Thanks, Evan and Dominik! As I mentioned, I was pretty nervous going into this, but as I started talking to people I realized that not everyone is as entrenched in the online cocktail world as some of us seem to be, and that I had a real opportunity to share some of my insight.

The BCB was very well done: it seemed small enough to be manageable, the brands and vendors were all pertinent to the current atmosphere (there weren’t 20 different energy drinks – such a refreshing change) and the presentations all felt very hand selected.

Everyone that I spoke with was very impressed with the Bar Convent and I hope it continues to stay on such a positive path!

]]> By: Dominik MJ http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35529 Dominik MJ Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:02:59 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35529 Hey Jeffrey, congratulations for this nice presentation - and even more congratulations for the overwhelming reaction you got! I am looking forward to your next posts about experiences of Berlin and the BCB. This year I had no chance to attend - hopefully next year we meet each other there... Cheers Dominik MJ Hey Jeffrey,

congratulations for this nice presentation – and even more congratulations for the overwhelming reaction you got!

I am looking forward to your next posts about experiences of Berlin and the BCB.

This year I had no chance to attend – hopefully next year we meet each other there…

Cheers

Dominik MJ

]]> By: Evan Martin http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35374 Evan Martin Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:34:09 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35374 Great information, once again your site is a great resource of info. Not that the julep video overshadowed your speech but watching those and the bar school videos can be addicting. haha Great information, once again your site is a great resource of info. Not that the julep video overshadowed your speech but watching those and the bar school videos can be addicting. haha

]]> By: blair frodelius http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35204 blair frodelius Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:14:42 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35204 Jeff & Harper-mong, I totally agree with both of you that tracing the origins of a drink is not only imperative to understanding the drink itself, but it is equally important to credit the mixologist who had the flash of brilliance to create it. Re: your presentation; it is very interesting how such a small percentage of people who are dialoguing about spirits has such a huge effect on the creative direction of distilleries. Just last night I was re-reading Gary Regan's introduction to New Classic Cocktails, and he cites the revival of the cocktail movement to the late 1980's and what he calls the "punk" movement of mixology. A lot of horrible drinks, but also a sense of rediscovery. Twenty years later, we have micro-distilleries creating a higher quality and wider range of spirits than any that have been widely available. With that has come the (IMHO) overpriced world of premium vodkas. But on the other hand, it has allowed for greater creativity and flexibility behind the bar. I wonder how many distilleries have their collective ears to the cocktail blogging world. They should, because it is through people like us, that a need for creative new products are desired, and thus pushing the envelope of those who have the means of production. Again, Jeff a fantastic job! Really well done! Cheers! Blair Jeff & Harper-mong,

I totally agree with both of you that tracing the origins of a drink is not only imperative to understanding the drink itself, but it is equally important to credit the mixologist who had the flash of brilliance to create it.

Re: your presentation; it is very interesting how such a small percentage of people who are dialoguing about spirits has such a huge effect on the creative direction of distilleries. Just last night I was re-reading Gary Regan’s introduction to New Classic Cocktails, and he cites the revival of the cocktail movement to the late 1980’s and what he calls the “punk” movement of mixology. A lot of horrible drinks, but also a sense of rediscovery.

Twenty years later, we have micro-distilleries creating a higher quality and wider range of spirits than any that have been widely available. With that has come the (IMHO) overpriced world of premium vodkas. But on the other hand, it has allowed for greater creativity and flexibility behind the bar.

I wonder how many distilleries have their collective ears to the cocktail blogging world. They should, because it is through people like us, that a need for creative new products are desired, and thus pushing the envelope of those who have the means of production.

Again, Jeff a fantastic job! Really well done!

Cheers!

Blair

]]> By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35195 Jeffrey Morgenthaler Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:14:44 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35195 Blair - The key point of the presentation was meant to show that through the web we have the ability to have an impact on taste. One story that didn't make it into the transcript was about when Thomas was showing me around the herb garden at Lebensstern. There was a big bald patch with some stumps growing out of it and I asked him what used to grow there. He said that it was red basil and that they'd run out. Harper-mong is right, with all of the murky origins and misinformation being passed around on the internet these days, it's definitely a good thing if we can try to keep things clear. Darcy - Torture me with popcorn again and I'll post your photo on the big screen like I did to poor Herr Meyer! Blair – The key point of the presentation was meant to show that through the web we have the ability to have an impact on taste. One story that didn’t make it into the transcript was about when Thomas was showing me around the herb garden at Lebensstern. There was a big bald patch with some stumps growing out of it and I asked him what used to grow there. He said that it was red basil and that they’d run out.

Harper-mong is right, with all of the murky origins and misinformation being passed around on the internet these days, it’s definitely a good thing if we can try to keep things clear.

Darcy – Torture me with popcorn again and I’ll post your photo on the big screen like I did to poor Herr Meyer!

]]> By: Darcy O'Neil http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35188 Darcy O'Neil Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:37:26 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35188 Nice presentation. And thanks, that's some pretty high praise. Now I feel bad about taunting you with popcorn at Tales. Cheers! Nice presentation. And thanks, that’s some pretty high praise. Now I feel bad about taunting you with popcorn at Tales. Cheers!

]]> By: harper-mong http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35178 harper-mong Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:11:09 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35178 I'm not sure I agree with you there Blair. Own may not be the right word, but that Gin Red Basil Smash belongs to Jeorg in my eyes. If I made it for a someone, and they complimented me on it, I would tell them where it came from, even though I don't know Jeorg, as thats just showing respect for a fellow profesional that has helped me in my work. Its considered good form here in the UK, if you put someone else's drink on your list, to let them know about it, sometimes even crediting them on the menu if appropriate. You don't have pay them for it, but you should pay them your respects, and it is a great feeling when someone does this back to you (not that its happened to me alot). Also with all the dark and murky origins of 90% of the drinks we make, if we can make it clearer for those that follow us, surely thats a good thing? I’m not sure I agree with you there Blair.
Own may not be the right word, but that Gin Red Basil Smash belongs to Jeorg in my eyes.
If I made it for a someone, and they complimented me on it, I would tell them where it came from, even though I don’t know Jeorg, as thats just showing respect for a fellow profesional that has helped me in my work.
Its considered good form here in the UK, if you put someone else’s drink on your list, to let them know about it, sometimes even crediting them on the menu if appropriate. You don’t have pay them for it, but you should pay them your respects, and it is a great feeling when someone does this back to you (not that its happened to me alot).
Also with all the dark and murky origins of 90% of the drinks we make, if we can make it clearer for those that follow us, surely thats a good thing?

]]> By: blair frodelius http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35160 blair frodelius Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:35:24 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35160 Jeff, Very well presented! I think the key point of your whole presentation is that no one owns cocktails, regardless of who creates them. Blair Frodelius Good Spirits News PS - Do you have a list of the 130 cocktail sites? Jeff,

Very well presented! I think the key point of your whole presentation is that no one owns cocktails, regardless of who creates them.

Blair Frodelius
Good Spirits News

PS – Do you have a list of the 130 cocktail sites?

]]> By: blair frodelius http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35159 blair frodelius Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:34:46 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35159 Jeff, Very well presented! I think the key point of your whole presentation is that no one owns cocktails, regardless of who creates them. Blair Frodelius Good Spirits News Jeff,

Very well presented! I think the key point of your whole presentation is that no one owns cocktails, regardless of who creates them.

Blair Frodelius
Good Spirits News

]]> By: Smach http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35061 Smach Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:35:41 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35061 Wish I could've been there to hear it. It's great in print without the "little water". Well done, Sir. Wish I could’ve been there to hear it. It’s great in print without the “little water”. Well done, Sir.

]]> By: Erik Lorincz http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35053 Erik Lorincz Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:40:58 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35053 Very nice presentation! I've missed the BCB this year, last year was the first one and it was great! And your site was informing me what is going on in Berlin while I had to cover my colleague who attended the BCB. Well done again! Very nice presentation! I’ve missed the BCB this year, last year was the first one and it was great! And your site was informing me what is going on in Berlin while I had to cover my colleague who attended the BCB. Well done again!

]]> By: Jimbo Walker http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35023 Jimbo Walker Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:55:29 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35023 Wow Jeff, Great presetation! I always look forward to reading your post. Thanks... Wow Jeff,
Great presetation! I always look forward to reading your post.
Thanks…

]]> By: Chris http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35022 Chris Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:29:17 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35022 Awesome presentation Jeff! Awesome presentation Jeff!

]]> By: Jeffrey Morgenthaler http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35018 Jeffrey Morgenthaler Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:13:31 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35018 Craig - Thanks, and yes, I'll be seeing you in November, sir! Very much looking forward to it. Helmut - It's true, Herr Meyer spiked my ice cubes with "little water" right before your introduction. It wasn't as refreshing as I'd hoped! Steve - Thank you, and thank you for all of your help putting this together. I didn't get to quote a lot of the data you provided me with, but it did help paint a clearer picture in my mind of the social networking sphere. Craig – Thanks, and yes, I’ll be seeing you in November, sir! Very much looking forward to it.

Helmut – It’s true, Herr Meyer spiked my ice cubes with “little water” right before your introduction. It wasn’t as refreshing as I’d hoped!

Steve – Thank you, and thank you for all of your help putting this together. I didn’t get to quote a lot of the data you provided me with, but it did help paint a clearer picture in my mind of the social networking sphere.

]]> By: Steve Raye http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35017 Steve Raye Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:50:24 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35017 Great presentation! You've done a good job of showing the history without getting too technical or detailed. FYI it's growing not just in the cocktail space but in wine as well. E.g. there was European Wine Blogger Conference http://ewbc2008.wineblogger.info/ held this summer, and a new organization called Open Wine Consortium (www.openwineconsortium.org) which is doing something similar in the US next month in California, and a new social networking site using Ning technology called Wine 2.0 (www.winetwo.com) that just started and looks pretty interesting. Great presentation! You’ve done a good job of showing the history without getting too technical or detailed. FYI it’s growing not just in the cocktail space but in wine as well. E.g. there was European Wine Blogger Conference http://ewbc2008.wineblogger.info/ held this summer, and a new organization called Open Wine Consortium (www.openwineconsortium.org) which is doing something similar in the US next month in California, and a new social networking site using Ning technology called Wine 2.0 (www.winetwo.com) that just started and looks pretty interesting.

]]> By: Helmut Adam http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35013 Helmut Adam Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:36:48 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35013 This was an awesome presentation and it was great to see so many European bloggers in the audience. I think we can now open the lid to another piece of information. The water glass Jeffrey used for refreshment during his speech contained water...the little Russian one. ;) True bartender style. Rock on! This was an awesome presentation and it was great to see so many European bloggers in the audience.

I think we can now open the lid to another piece of information. The water glass Jeffrey used for refreshment during his speech contained water…the little Russian one. ;)

True bartender style. Rock on!

]]> By: harper-mong http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35009 harper-mong Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:19:30 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35009 Thats a great presentation sir! As an unashamed technophobe, it has taken me a wee while to really get into using the net properly, and as you so aptly illustrate their is a lot of bad info too. So thank you for the leads to the best of it out there, will I see you in NY in November? Mint Julips with sprite are on me, cheers Craig Thats a great presentation sir! As an unashamed technophobe, it has taken me a wee while to really get into using the net properly, and as you so aptly illustrate their is a lot of bad info too. So thank you for the leads to the best of it out there,
will I see you in NY in November? Mint Julips with sprite are on me,
cheers
Craig

]]> By: drinkmix.de http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35005 drinkmix.de Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:37:49 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35005 It was a pity, not being in Berlin as a german bartender and blogger, next year I'll be there! Thanx for the presentation! It was a pity, not being in Berlin as a german bartender and blogger, next year I’ll be there!

Thanx for the presentation!

]]> By: Tiare http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35003 Tiare Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:25:25 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35003 Awesome presentation! makes me wonder how all of this will look in a year from now. Awesome presentation! makes me wonder how all of this will look in a year from now.

]]> By: Lauren Clark http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-35001 Lauren Clark Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:53:19 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-35001 Finally, a Mint Julep recipe that gets it right. Finally, a Mint Julep recipe that gets it right.

]]> By: Paul http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-34993 Paul Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:18:05 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-34993 (Nice presentation, by the way) (Nice presentation, by the way)

]]> By: Paul http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-use-the-web-to-connect-to-the-global-bar-community/comment-page-1/#comment-34992 Paul Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:16:20 +0000 http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/?p=1063#comment-34992 "Now at .0000009% of the total blog population, that’s not a huge number. (Ha ha)" Good thing you worked that last bit in. It's important to keep a sense of humor. “Now at .0000009% of the total blog population, that’s not a huge number. (Ha ha)”

Good thing you worked that last bit in. It’s important to keep a sense of humor.

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